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Posted: Fri Aug 7th, 2009 06:05 pm |
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Heard VDC go off-the wall this morning about 8:40 or so at some caller - he invited listeners to call-in and express their opinions on Free-For-All Friday. Guy from Nixa had a stance on Cash for Clunkers that VDC did not agree with. Man/Caller/Taxpayer/stated Business Owner/considered himself a Conservative ( I mean, why else would he be listening to this morning entertainment show.) Caller was polite and was attempting to state his (as invited) opinion when he was screamed at by host and told to "Shut-Up" and was told that he was NOT a conservative because, I suppose, host/$5-haircut-model did not grant him license to carry that identity. I always believed that we are free to consider ourselves whatever we wish politically, it being the USA (still.) Anyhoo, innocent caller got shut-off statiion (Fair and Balanced? As Yakov might say "What a Slogan!!!") and the Host/Microphone Controller somehow turned this into a personal battle that he is facing with an illness in his family and that this man was taking away his personal ability to have more money to aid family member. Huh. Then he said (safely ensconsed behind a coffee cup and a microphone) that the caller was "lucky that he was not within arms reach." Wow., just Wow! Talk about rage and unwarranted anger expressing itself publically. Does the Greene County Sheriff know that this potential Raging citizen-by-adoptation has a drivers license and may endanger others by his uncontrollable sudden public outbursts? Does he have a weapon available for when he is out-of-control? Does his management know that he is flipped, or is that encouraged just so folks, such as myself I suppose, will talk about his Morning Entertainment program and somehow rase his ratings and his opinion of himself if that is even possible.
My opinion is that this Radio Entertainer should really be careful about shrieking like he is involved in a Kindergarten Recess argument and threatening people publicly to implied physical confrontation. Someday, someone may indeed be humiliated and threatened enough to defend themselves and the Morning Radio Entertainer may bite-off much more than they can chew accidently. Amazing that these folks are given access to airwave space licensed to their stations by the grace of a Federal Commission and the people of the USA.
I will someday post the formula that I have devised on how to be a Small Market Radio Right-Wing Talk Show host. It's really easy, anybody can do it...
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ken371
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Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 06:22 pm |
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| My guess is the formula is to take everything FOX news does and localize it. Be in a constant state of outrage, or if you are Glen Beck have that bug-eyed look of the Liberals are about to bend me over again. Do not listen to reason and anybody who disagrees with you hates America. Distort history to support your ideas ( Obama is using the same tactics as Hitler to cram socialism down our throats !!!) All social programs are being paid for out of YOUR pocket, I am just waiting for the eventual outrage toward public libraries, your tax dollars are paying for computer solitare guy and homeless guy sleeping pretending to read a magazine. That by God Nancy Pelosi drinks wine and eats cheese while you bust your hump to get by and if you do get ahead Al Gore is gonna take it from you to fight pollution. Keith Obermann tucks in Obama's children at night and Rachel Maddow irons thier clothes. But the truth is I work at a truck stop in a red state where the TV never leaves FOX ... There is an ugly ground swell brewing in this country... VDJ is just a tiny part of it. Hell, I should relocate to Canada I hear that Hortons coffee is awful good...
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Buddy Dornster
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Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 03:36 am |
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Ken, Ken, Ken. Wow. I will take call of your points to your attention. If the check says United States Treasury, it comes from YOUR pocket, and mine, and the guy next door, if he pays income tax. Can't get past that bit of truth.
Any check so titled, for social programs, checks for government employees, congressmen, senators, and czars, comes from us, and no one else. Just the way it is.
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ken371
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Posted: Sun Aug 9th, 2009 08:53 pm |
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| I know what I meant to say but it came out totally wrong !!! Look I am against this whole health care business also.. and the cash for clunkers thing I am not sold on either. AND I am questioning if I will vote for Obama again in 2012. What I was trying to get across is the viscious mean spirited nature of talk radio and FOX news and what it does to people, not that MSNBC is perfect. I have a friend who calls CNN the Commie news network. I actually saw a guy root for Ted Kennedy to die saying " if we implement this health care thing that means ..." You know... I SHOULD STICK TO SPORTS !!! I am a dumb@#& !!!
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 01:35 am |
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This is why I HATE talk radio. Randy Raley has the best show. It's just talk and the kind of conversation I would have with my friends.
I'm tired of hearing who is a communist. The host of our show on the AM was saying that Andy Griffith was a communist, "not only for his association with Ron Howard(?), but because he appeared in an ad endorsing Obama." REALLY? And there are stupid people who sit at home and believe this crap. Most of which are unable to leave the house because of old age or they are affraid Obama will place them under marhsall law.
Glenn Beck and all of these other prima donnas are only in it for themselves, the whole world centers around THEM. Talk radio, McCarthyism at it's best.
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artmorris
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Posted: Mon Aug 10th, 2009 03:12 am |
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You guys are looking at this through the eyes of politics.
Change your perspective. Look at it through the eyes of RADIO! Controversy brings listeners...
Talk Radio saved AM radio from certain death 20 years ago. And, it's about to do it again for the entire industry.
Forget politics! What's good for RADIO??????
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Turner the burner
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 03:59 pm |
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I have to disagree. I think it is all about politics. Rush, Hannity, Ingram, Beck, the others and especially local talkers seems to me to be all about propaganda, not entertainment. It seems that corporate conglomerates want to flood the frequencies with GOP dogma in an attempt to influence elections and The FCC in an effort to obtain further control of ownership, they want more stations for further consolidation.
I think the GOP should be paying for air time, before stations should be paying to play music. Most of these shows are simply wall to wall commercials for the Republicans and all anti Obama (and Clinton before that). Today's talk radio seems to only embolden the Archie Bunker mentality and insight those with half truths and total misinformation.
The Fairness Doctrine served this nation well for decades and seems sorely needed today to ensure "fair and balanced" coverage instead of the radical talk that only serves the republican agenda especially since ownership is mostly in the hands of only a few corporations.
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ken371
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 06:52 pm |
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| If the worst rated tv station started running wall to wall porn that would be great for its ratings too. Talk radio has become like porn. Like porn what was hardcore or contraversial 20 years ago is practically on the supermarket shelves today. Those comic books you can check out at the library would have been banned as smut 20 years ago. In 1992 I loved Rush, I planned my day around listening to his show and read his first two books.. then suddenly it just stopped being fun.
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 07:33 pm |
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Kens' and Turners' last 2 posts are both spot on although I do have reservations as to if the fairness doctrine should be started back up. Yes Ken, it's not fun anymore. One could listen to the local and national hate radio folks day and night and all he or she would get for their time is more animosity toward their neighbors. I say again, it's healthier to keep informed, not inflamed. I'm told the local schattenkirk asked his followers sometime last week to call in to name the liberal they despise the most and why. If true that would indeed be a real waste of air time. It's sad really.... I invite you all to join me in listening to anything but the seditionist revolutionary haters/liars.
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artmorris
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 08:21 pm |
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So.... (and I've asked this numerous times in the past) with what would you replace the current crop of talkers?
Fairness Doctrine? Doesn't matter one way or the other, But, if enacted, just adds more fun to the debate. If 'fairness' were mandated, you'd see a lot of "Hannity & Colmes" debate shows. (I think Hannity's show was a lot better when he had Colmes to debate with.)
Back in 1992/93, when I was doing contract work for KWTO (then owned by Cole Media), they had Alan Colmes right after Rush at 2pm. That was some of the best, most fun radio I've ever heard. The right wingers were livid at Colmes' refuting Rush's comments. It was really great radio.
Commercial radio is about gain and keeping an audience, with an eye to selling advertising. As long as that's the system under which we operate, radio will give the public what it wants.
I find it interesting the most successful progressive host on radio is Ed Schultz, whose on-air presentation is very similar to 'loud-mouth' conservative hosts.
Don't get wrong. I rarely listen to VDJ. With respect, what he's doing doesn't engage me. In the morning, I'm looking for a few yuks with my news and weather.
Art
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Turner the burner
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Posted: Tue Aug 11th, 2009 08:56 pm |
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It is sad and embarrassing to see the Claire McCaskill town hall meeting and the rude behavior of the folks in the audience who I'm sure have been inflamed by talk radio and the misinformation they put forth.
I wonder why they don't concentrate more on the insurance companies who have seen there profits soar by 400 percent and whose CEO's make over $100,000 and hour all the while doing exactly what these protesters fear the government will do, come between the patient and doctor. . These are simply Obama/Clinton haters fueled talk radio.
As for the Fairness Doctrine, It was enacted following WW2 after the Nazi propaganda machine brain washed Germany. It served this nation through the 40's, 50's, 60's and 70's then was part of Regan's deregulation and look at what all that led to. It seems to me talk radio now is nothing more than a GOP political advertisement and the airtime should be purchased or equal.
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Desdinova the Super Villain of the Ozark
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Posted: Wed Aug 12th, 2009 04:20 am |
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Turner the burner wrote: I have to disagree. I think it is all about politics. Rush, Hannity, Ingram, Beck, the others and especially local talkers seems to me to be all about propaganda, not entertainment. It seems that corporate conglomerates want to flood the frequencies with GOP dogma in an attempt to influence elections and The FCC in an effort to obtain further control of ownership, they want more stations for further consolidation.
I think the GOP should be paying for air time, before stations should be paying to play music. Most of these shows are simply wall to wall commercials for the Republicans and all anti Obama (and Clinton before that). Today's talk radio seems to only embolden the Archie Bunker mentality and insight those with half truths and total misinformation.
The Fairness Doctrine served this nation well for decades and seems sorely needed today to ensure "fair and balanced" coverage instead of the radical talk that only serves the republican agenda especially since ownership is mostly in the hands of only a few corporations.
I honestly don't think it is the actual GOP, but I've suggested on my blog several times that there is money being passed, or as I call it "Talkola." I think this is comin not from the GOP by far right groups like John Birch Society and others. My roomate/twin bother has been working on a novel that takes place in the 50s/early 60s. He purchased some books through E-bay from that era by "anti-Communist experts." All but one was as Jamie said "McCarthyism at it's worst." Everyone is a Communist according to these people Democrats, school teachers, entertainment celebrities, the media, blacks, Jewish people etc. etc. Most of these books were not put out through major publishers, but small companies. The authors had ties to these "Commie-fighting" organizations (most of them were based in either California or MISSOURI).
How crazy is it? One author goes after Danny Thomas because he founded St. Judes. The author maintains that "spending money to care for sick children will weaken our country in case of a Red attack." The author suggest that euthanising "weak and cronicly sick" children would be a good idea. The same guy also maintains that asthma is "not a real illness, but a plot by leftist doctors to secure money for a cure that should go to the military." Reminds me of Mike Savage's rant about autism a few months back.
My point is much of the rhetoric of talk radio is the same as what was published in those books. They just change the word "Communist" to "socialist" or "terrorist." I think some of the more extremist groups are suppling money and "talking points" to these jerks.
However, Art has a point, but there is a double-standard. I've noticed that when a person on a music station (especially rock or pop) says the least little thing that offends someone they get fired. When a group is offended by something said on talk radio, the syndicators usually start throwing out the "free speech" or "he is really an entertainer." It is like there is a different set of rules for the talk radio thugs.
Why I wanted to get into radio was listening to Woody Snow and Dr. Don (switching back and forth between US97 and Rock 99) on the way to school. They said or did one crazy thing after another in an effort to top each other. People in the industry here in Springburg say "We can't do that anymore. They offended people." When I got out of MSU, I tried to get a job as a morning show host and was told "Springfield doesn't want a Howard Stern type." Well, I wasn't Howard Stern, I would never go that far. I was more like Woody and Dr. Don. Those same stations that said they didn't want a Howard Stern type have on their stations morning shows that are rougher than I would be. What I saw from Woody and Dr. Don was you don't need to be dirty to offend people in Springfield. I've seen it other places too. Ron Davis wrote in his News Leader column that he thought Guns N Roses should have a theater in Branson and people wanted him fired. Was that statement "dirty"? Every year since I've worked at Meyer Comm, Wayne Glenn has gotten complaints for playing "I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Clause" because Springfieldians feel it is "making light of having an extra marital affair in front of a child." One of my colleagues got in trouble at another station in town for saying "bellybutton fuzz" on the air.
Yet Jericho never seems to get in trouble and his little crazy minions will threaten you with death if you mention him being taken off air. I know. I stopped allowing comments on my blog because of that (and spam from local candidates and PACs).
Maybe the drop in raitings will show he has worn out his welcome.of course, I fear seeing what he would be replaced with.
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Posted: Fri Aug 14th, 2009 09:29 pm |
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Talk radio tires me because of all the negative screaming of anything and everyting Obama and before that Clinton...total bias and seldom if ever anything objective or open minded. It reminds me of this great little diddy from a classic Marx Bros movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtMV44yoXZ0
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Posted: Sun Aug 16th, 2009 04:56 am |
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The only way VDJ will go bye-bye is if he cheeses enough advertisers off. (He's well on his way to doing that)
Sadly as long he makes Journal a few bucks they'll keep him on the air no matter how idiotic he sounds or offensive he is.
(and he repulses me just as much as certain rock stations in this town do)
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ken371
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Posted: Sun Aug 16th, 2009 11:03 pm |
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| You know a funny creative thing would be to do a Bob and Doug Mckenzie spoof slash take off. of course isnt making a big deal that he is Canadian like those birther nuts who say Obama was born in Kenya ? I actually like VDJ in some ways because it takes monster size onions to be that whatever. You know me... I root for bad, I love trainwrecks and still miss Hot seat with Wally George !!! Last edited on Tue Aug 18th, 2009 07:20 pm by ken371
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