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Will Sterrett
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 Posted: Mon Apr 30th, 2007 10:37 am

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DougSki wrote: Oldies is going the way of Big Band and Swing,  It has become such a market that you think would be huge with Baby Boomers coming of age and such, but for some reason the music just doesn't seem to hold true.  Plus the oldies stations are trying to latch on to yet another demographic and decide to dump the music of the 50s and 60s to get the people that loved music in the 70s. I see it in Classic Rock now too, that they are diving into the 80s and I even heard some early 90s stuff slide in everynow and again. 

The thing is, the audience is still completely there, and everyone's afraid of losing the agency accounts because of using the "O" word.

The same argument is being used on the Oldies crowd that was made regarding Adult Standards, and that is the audience has money to spend. It's completely true, but the Adult Standards crowd doesn't that money. That's the fundamental difference - Baby Boomers spend liberally (some would argue recklessly) but everyone's afraid of the 45+ audience because that age group, as recently as 10 years ago, would hang onto every dime they had for fear of never having another cent.

Oldies is alive and well. It's just not the format of choice for the corporate Kool-Aid drinkers.

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 Posted: Mon May 28th, 2007 12:43 pm

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I always thought that using the word "oldies" to identify the format was wrong.  You automatically eliminate a large segment of your potential audience simply by using that term.  The "oldies" format also shot itself in the foot by maintaining a tight playlist.  Those songs do not need to be played everydamnday, especially with the years and years of music available.  The "burn factor" presented a real problem thanks to consultants and programmers who insisted on a 6 to 8 hundred song playlist.  That works for a format that has new product to add each week and a "current rotation" that changes as the music climbs or falls from the charts.  I believe that a library based format playlist should be hugh.  I also believe in quick backsells even in music sweeps.  That "forward momentium" stuff is BS.  A DJ can cleverly tie one title to another in music sweeps and enhance the presentation by doing so, afterall we were called "disc jockey's" for a reason.  I have also talked to many many listners who hear a song and want to know the title or artist moreso after it has been played than before.

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 Posted: Tue May 29th, 2007 05:28 am

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On a similar note, I really enjoyed the WLS "Memorial Day Rewind". RJ and I were having a blast with that one today. Something I noticed on each break and have noticed on old airchecks of KHJ, WLS, etc. Station jingle segues into the next record while the jocks hits it's post. Why did we stop doing this? I think it sounds cool. Only with jingles though.

If an oldies station sounded like today's flashback of WLS, I would be hooked 24/7. Jocks having fun, enjoying themselves, as opposed to wallpaper. The music also sounded great on AM tonight.

Last edited on Tue May 29th, 2007 05:30 am by Jamie Turner


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