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Mr Mike
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Posted: Fri Feb 22nd, 2008 11:04 pm |
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Obama once visited '60s radicals
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html
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Mr Mike
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Posted: Sat Feb 23rd, 2008 06:44 pm |
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Obama: is America ready for this dangerous leftwinger?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article3412540.ece
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Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2008 12:19 am |
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| One thing I really like about Obama is that he says he is willing to set down and talk to our enemies face to face and try to get problems resolved. MUCH BETTER than Bush's "bomb them now, ask questions later" practice. That coupled with his willingness to get some type of gun controls in place puts him in first place in my book. A hundred times better than "W".
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Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2008 03:57 am |
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I'm okay with the diplomacy issue, but not the gun controls. To lower our out-of-control crime rates in this country the solution is NOT to put the government in control of who can have what type of firearms.
Even if it weren't for that pesky 2nd Amendment, gun control is just bad practice. One need look no further than Washington DC - the city with the strictest gun control in the nation is also riddled with violent crime. Look at the concealed carry states - crime rates almost invariably go down when these laws pass.
Gun control only serves to feed a black market for guns, one which criminals will go to extreme lengths to patronize. Since the black market gun dealers are putting their neck on the line by illegally selling firearms, they'll want a premium price for their trouble - and since violent criminals generally aren't working a 9 to 5, they'll get that money by stealing money and property from innocent citizens - the ones that have been disarmed.
Unless you're willing to put a sign in your yard saying "THIS HOUSE BELIEVES IN GUN CONTROL - OCCUPANTS ARE COMPLETELY UNARMED", you may want to re-think calling for tighter restrictions on firearms. Especially since the government would be the ones doing the choosing. After all, we're talking about the same folks that brought you the War on Poverty, War on Drugs, No Child Left Behind, Social Security, and our inexcusably lax border enforcement. Sorry, I have no reason to trust the government to get anything right....and that includes deciding who gets the guns.
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Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2008 02:13 pm |
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I agree. Curt, can you explain how gun control is going to stop gun crime? And if that works, then why doesn't drug laws stop drug usage?
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Posted: Sun Feb 24th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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How about a sign for the "gun tote'rs".... I HAVE A GUN AND MAY SHOOT YOU AT CHURCH, AT SCHOOL OR IN THE MALL.
As to how it would work...let's take a lesson from the United Kingdom...only 49 people killed by guns last year, -vs- 30,000 killed in the United States by guns. And we call ourselves "a christian nation"?
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 02:50 am |
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| As an Ozark County native, I grew up around rifles, shotguns and hunters. Thanks to our government, I have even been trained as a killer and truly believe in the old adage about "the quick and the dead". I am however very much opposed to the civilian use of military style weapons and believe that there is no reasonable need for this type of arsenal among the general population. However, it seems the horse is out of the barn and it is too late to close the barn door. When you mix the high powered fire power with the state of today's society, the violent movies, video games and the glamorization of the gansta lifestyle it is a cocktail that is gonna result in tragedy after tragedy, it all falls in the the lap of what American society has evolved into and I don't look for that to improve anytime soon. In fact, I hate to mention this but I fear for Obama, what with his Kennedy/Martin Luther King comparison and his comment on gun control, I'm afraid some looney might try to shoot him.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 03:00 am |
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All due respect Curt, your sign comment would only be relevant IF concealed carriers were known to be shooting up the mall, church, or etc. Since violent crime rates tend to go DOWN, not up, when these laws are passed your analogy is irrelevant. All I'm saying is anyone who supports disarming citizens should be willing to make that view public.
Anytime somebody does shoot up the mall/school/etc we as a country wholly miss the point. There's automatically the calls for greater gun controls, a series of questions as to why the shooter had a gun in the first place, and whatnot. Almost everyone misses the common link - in nearly all of these cases, the shooter was either on, or had recently stopped taking, psychotropic drugs. Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Tech) had been on them; so had Robert Hawkins (Omaha-Westroads Mall), Steven Kazmierczak (Northern Illinois Univ), Eric Harris (Columbine), and many others. It's not about guns - it's a medical thing.
Oh, and of course you're going to see more gun violence here than in the UK. FAR more people live here. This country is exponentially bigger than the UK, and as such, you're going to see more gun deaths. Also, many of those deaths are the result of gang activity - and the UK has far less of that than the US.
Case after case proves gun control has the opposite effect of what's intended. I'm not a big NRA type, but the second any candidate mentions supporting gun control they've automatically lost my vote - so I won't be voting for Obama, Clinton, OR McCain. All three support increased gun control.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 03:28 pm |
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There were gun laws that would have stopped the Illinois shooter, and many others, from buying weapons if they had been honest at the time they made the purchase. You can't buy weapons if they have received mental treatment or been in a mental facility.
The issue there is, how many people are going to say to a gun dealer, "I"m (DVJ, Mr. Mike) and I'm a nut job so don't sell me a weapon."]=[-
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 04:01 pm |
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Have to make one correction. Illinois law prohibits someone from buying a weapon if they've been hospitalized within a five year period of purchase. The NIU shooter spent time in a facility in Chicago right out of high school. He was 27 at the time of the killing. He bought the weapons within the last year.
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Posted: Mon Feb 25th, 2008 07:33 pm |
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I stand corrected. My point is: people wouldn't be honest. And most governments don't have the proper systems in place to check. There are now hippa laws which would prevent certain information from being released.
Nut jobs would get guns simply by lying.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 04:10 pm |
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morrisjames wrote: Nut jobs would get guns simply by lying.
Which is precisely why we need less, not more, gun control. It's a small portion of the population that is getting around the gun control measures and shooting up (insert public place here) and by allowing the masses to carry guns, it makes it easier to stop a mentally ill gunman as he carries out his rampage.
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Posted: Tue Feb 26th, 2008 11:41 pm |
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Black Hillary Supporters May Be Receiving Death Threats
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/black_hillary_supporters_may_b.html
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Posted: Wed Feb 27th, 2008 11:46 pm |
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Civil Rights Leader Switches to Obama
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Posted: Mon Mar 3rd, 2008 10:14 pm |
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Canadian diplomatic memo disproves Obama campaign claims
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/03/canadian_diplomatic_memo_dispr.html
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