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 Posted: Tue Oct 27th, 2009 12:43 pm
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President Obama has put securing Afghanistan near the top of his foreign policy agenda, but "victory" in the war-torn country isn’t necessarily the United States’ goal, he said Thursday in a TV interview.

"I’m always worried about using the word ‘victory,’ because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur," Obama told ABC News.

The enemy facing U.S. and Afghan forces isn’t so clearly defined, he explained.

"We’re not dealing with nation states at this point. We’re concerned with Al Qaeda and the Taliban, Al Qaeda’s allies," he said. "So when you have a non-state actor, a shadowy operation like Al Qaeda, our goal is to make sure they can’t attack the United States." …

"We are confident that if we are assisting the Afghan people and improving their security situation, stabilizing their government, providing help on economic development … those things will continue to contract the ability of Al Qaeda to operate. And that is absolutely critical," Obama told ABC News…

Pressure from the public and opposition politicians is growing as soldiers’ bodies return home, and a poll released Thursday shows majorities in Britain, Germany and Canada oppose increasing their own troop levels in Afghanistan.

Europeans and Canadians are growing weary of the war — or at least their involvement in combat operations — even as Obama is shifting military resources to Afghanistan away from Iraq.

The United States, which runs the NATO-led force, has about 59,000 troops in Afghanistan — nearly double the number a year ago — and thousands more are on the way. There are about 32,000 other international troops in the country…

The leaders of the largest contributors to the coalition find themselves having to justify both their reasons for deploying troops and their management of the war effort

And yet, as we noted at the time, almost exactly a year ago Mr. Obama was singing a very different tune.

From the Associated Press:

Obama says Afghanistan ‘a war that we have to win’
By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer

July 15, 2008

WASHINGTON – Contending that the U.S. is not pursuing a sound strategy for keeping Americans safe, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama said Tuesday that fighting al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan would be his top priority after ending the war in Iraq.

"This is a war that we have to win," Obama said in remarks prepared for delivery at the International Trade Center in Washington…
Of course Mr. Obama was campaigning for the Presidency back in July.

Also remember how the Democrats, including of course Mr. Obama, always claimed that we should be concentrating on Afghanistan. And, just as importantly, we should have  more of our allies fighting alongside us in the war.

Finally the Democrats have now gotten both of their purported wishes. The right war in the right place – with plenty of other Western countries helping us.

And yet, look at how poorly things are going. Any minute now our ‘allies’ will turn tail and pull out. Which will give Mr. Obama an excuse to do the same.

Which, come to think of it, was surely the Democrat plan all along.

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"Mission Accomplished."

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OCTOBER DEADLIEST MONTH IN AFGHAN WAR

U.S. official resigns over Afghan war; No longer knows why his nation is fighting...

 

Another loath the military Democrat President.

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Why would you say that?

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techpuppy wrote: Why would you say that?


Two Months After Top General Called for More Troops in Afghanistan, Obama Says He Won’t Rush Decision


http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/56135

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U.S. official resigns over Afghan war; No longer knows why his nation is fighting...

 

A former Marine Corps captain with combat experience in Iraq, Hoh had also served in uniform at the Pentagon, and as a civilian in Iraq and at the State Department. By July, he was the senior U.S. civilian in Zabul province, a Taliban hotbed.

But last month, in a move that has sent ripples all the way to the White House, Hoh, 36, became the first U.S. official known to resign in protest over the Afghan war, which he had come to believe simply fueled the insurgency.

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Uh, you're post is a rerun.

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Liz Cheney Speaks Out On Obama’s Dover Photo-Op

 

LIZ CHENEY:  I don't know why he went to Dover.  I think that clearly it is very important for a commander-in-chief whenever he can, in whatever way possible, to pay tribute to our fallen soldiers, our fallen military, folks, but I think, you know, what President Bush used to do was to do it without cameras, and I don't understand sort of showing up with the White House press pool with photographers and asking family members if he can take pictures.  I mean, that's really hard for me to get my head around.  I think it's an honorable and important thing to pay tribute, there's no greater sacrifice people make to the nation.  It was a surprising way for the president to choose to do it.  I would also point out that the best way to pay tribute to those who have sacrificed is to win the war.


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"Mission Accomplished", posing on top of 9/11 rubble, the Katrina flyover, hmmm...select amnesia again...

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Obama's Frightening Insensitivity Following Shooting

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/politics/A-Disconnected-President.html

A bad week for Democrats compounded by an awful moment for Barack Obama.

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Grieving mom demands Obama make decision on Afghanistan troop levels...
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He just doesn't care.

 

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Army says morale down among troops in Afghanistan...

This President is just leaving them out to die.

 

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'VERY CLOSE' TO TROOP DECISION

 

Just take your time its just American service men who are at risk.

 

 



 

 

 

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Obama Has Now Played 25 Rounds of Golf- More Than Bush’s Two Terms While Soldiers Wait for Reinforcements (Updated)

I'm sure there is another trip that just can't wait.

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Didn't Bush start this mess?  If I recall, he and the gop had no plan for this mess and kept feeding us rhetoric about how well the effort was going.  Our politics is simply not welcome in some areas of the middle east.  If you ever travel there or discuss with people from the area, you will quickly realize that cultures are different and pushing our ideology there is a no win scenario.

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